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Ivan Tesla
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Posted - 2010.10.21 09:57:00 -
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Just repeating what I've recently said on the EVE Online "Create A Starship" Semi-Finalists page:
Maybe to fix things CCP should pick another 15 competition submissions as well, still keep the DA choices, and pick the winners from the full 30 submissions. Whats worse, having to fork out 15 extra token prizes or the current disharmony? Would save a lot of face :) win win
Sounds reasonable to me..if it means my ship is Lammergeier is black listed I don't care, just give me a ship I want to buy and fly!  --------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
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Ivan Tesla
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Posted - 2010.10.22 04:44:00 -
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I've mentioned this on the DA finalist section but I will add here (mostly):
Does it seem just a bit strange that an obvious very few good ships in the final 15 are picked with a large group of not bad (mostly) but OBVIOUSLY not best designs compared with the a lot more epic ones that didn't get in? Call be paranoid (I prefer realist) but the obvious way to ensure only a select few win (why?) is if the competition is neutralized :) What would CCP pick if they don't re-do or add an extra 15 to the competition? They'll probably pick the most obvious favourites & most obvious best designs etc
Ok I'd rather think this more a probability than they just screwed up or their art appreciation is different from ours. That might sound generalized but you get the drift :P --------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
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Ivan Tesla
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Posted - 2010.10.22 08:31:00 -
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Originally by: Chief Picajing How To Add Insult To Injury 101
One thing that would ease a little of the sting of shock over this obvious disaster, would be to hand out the "Free Gift to qualified entries" as originally promised in the official contest rules.
NOTE: Apparently someone has EDITED the official rules to now read: "All entrants to the contest who provide a valid email address and an entry that generally complies with the depiction of a starship as required by these Official Rules will receive a code provided by Sponsor at no charge to download a free copy of EVE Online." No, I'm not kidding take a look: http://st.deviantart.net/news/eve-online/rules/rules.html?6
That's nice, we can have a free EVE download, which is already available 24 hours a day from the EVE website to anyone. All Eve players know this, for those that don't here's the link:
http://www.eveonline.com/download/
This is REALLY the icing on the cake, well done DA.
lol
I have an email account listed in my deviantart account settings.. I think everyone has to put in an email account as well to sign up to deviantart ... still no prize mail in my inbox though. Did we have to display the email address with our submission? or send some specially 'just for you' note, with email, to deviantart admins? or or or... some have commented that my ship goes by the rules but - hey who really knows? We don't even have a list of what failed and why do we? hah what a joke
For those that say that they should stick to the contest results so far because of rules and such - they keep changing it all as they go!! ffs ..if it was a PLEX maybe I'd be kicking more of a stink, but since its a free copy of EVE Online hahahaaaaa DA dodgy at all? 
EPIC FAIL --------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
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Ivan Tesla
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Posted - 2010.10.22 08:34:00 -
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Originally by: Mara Rinn
Originally by: Chief Picajing That's nice, we can have a free EVE download, which is already available 24 hours a day from the EVE website to anyone
The code they get is for a longer-than-usual trial period. I don't know for sure, but the comments seem to indicate that it's a 28 or 30 day trial period. So we have the normal everyday trial which gives you 14 days, the Buddy Invite trial which gives you 21 days, and the DA "I coulda been a contenda" trial of 30 days.
It's a nice gesture by CCP to give everyone an opportunity to experience the world of EVE in order to gain a greater understanding of the artistic style of the universe they're designing for.
No more "Long Axis Battlecruisers".
But do you trust what DA say? :) or if its true, do you trust you would actually get it? (if its organised through DA). --------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
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Ivan Tesla
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Posted - 2010.10.22 08:46:00 -
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Edited by: Ivan Tesla on 22/10/2010 08:48:08 Just had to add, after looking at the page with the contest rules, it kinda reminds me of the 2001: A Space Odyssey scene on one of the transport ships going to the moon. The guy in the scene, Heywood Floyd, needs to go to the toilet but needs to obey a long list of instructions:
Compare :)
Starship Contest Rules
2001 rules before relief
Though both the end results are somewhat the same :)
--------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
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Ivan Tesla
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Posted - 2010.10.22 09:27:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Advile
Originally by: Jagga Spikes
i got a 30-day CD-key. it was "* Valid only for new and trial accounts. Cannot be used to add time to existing subscriptions to EVE Online."
still, whole deal feels as if DA wasn't prepared for the number and quality of competitors. LA battlecruiser addition/removal and commentary. too casual. even if all was just marketing, it's tremendous opportunity lost. i don't really see how can they get out of this mess without CCP stepping in.
+1
Ok well since it seems they've sent out to people that I assume had gone correctly by the rules - could anyone tell me what elements in my submission that IS (not maybe) unacceptable in regard to the rules?
Lammergeier
I am looking for an answer if anyone has it, please reply. So weird, I actually send the DA support a message during the contest to ask if I was breaking any rules - said I should be ok ....  --------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
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Ivan Tesla
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Posted - 2010.10.22 11:01:00 -
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Originally by: Piston Prius
Ok well since it seems they've sent out to people that I assume had gone correctly by the rules - could anyone tell me what elements in my submission that IS (not maybe) unacceptable in regard to the rules?
Lammergeier
I am looking for an answer if anyone has it, please reply. So weird, I actually send the DA support a message during the contest to ask if I was breaking any rules - said I should be ok .... 
Well obviously it's not as pleasing as the LA_BattleCruiser! Less artistic effort!
But seriously, it's great. Awesome in its awesomeness! I can't find anything wrong! You must have spent hours especially on the 7th image since it looks like a paint job in Photoshop rather than a 3D render. I would proudly fly that ship. It's pure Caldari. And that might be the problem? The judges don't know EVE and the certain factional traits found in their ship designs might just baffle people who don't know the EVE universe. Like chunky non-symmetrical ships and a factions fascination with paper thin half transparent fins.
Would be nice if dA also showed the disqualified entries and put up a small reason as to why. Something just short and to the point so at least people know. I feel like I'm caught in a wormhole now.
Thanks for the A-OKs :) I haven't received any negatives so its looking more likely that it passes I guess... Completely agree with some DA input, just some quick reason why something qualified or didn't would be a good move on DAs part.
Could it really just be incompetence and a lack of seriousness at play here? I mean its not like the 1st prize is a smiley face and a pat on the back.. how many judges actually judged this or is it just one person I wonder :S Has that been stated already? --------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
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Ivan Tesla
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Posted - 2010.10.25 05:04:00 -
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Originally by: Chief Picajing
Originally by: Ivan Tesla Edited by: Ivan Tesla on 22/10/2010 08:48:08 Just had to add, after looking at the page with the contest rules, it kinda reminds me of the 2001: A Space Odyssey scene on one of the transport ships going to the moon. The guy in the scene, Heywood Floyd, needs to go to the toilet but needs to obey a long list of instructions:
Compare :)
Starship Contest Rules
2001 rules before relief
Though both the end results are somewhat the same :)
Now that I have stopped laughing, returned to my chair and dried off the monitor... I'd like to send you a case of beer. That was damn funny. 
Thats ok, I have enough in the fridge - if you ever wanted to send a plex though I'm more than willing to receive it  --------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
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Ivan Tesla
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Posted - 2010.10.27 23:30:00 -
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I still haven't received anything in the email, so I guess Lammergeier wasn't consider a correct submission...?.. I've asked before if my ship was submitted with something that would break the rules but have never gotten a negative. Maybe I don't get one because of complaining :) Well CCP & DA are run by people after all I guess, can't fault em for doing what they do. If you want something to be completely professionally run..well that would never happen anyway so quit dreaming  --------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
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Ivan Tesla
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Posted - 2010.10.27 23:34:00 -
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Originally by: Ole F i sincerely hope the "special gift" that was talked about in the contest article is more than these 30-day keys they've been handing out.
It seems kinda pointless that it would be something that is useless to entrants that are already EVE subscribers (and i would assume a sizable amount of them are)
A Plex would have been the obvious choice for those that play EVE already. Didn't the rules originally say an 'in-game prize'? Thats what I would have liked most of all but thats definitely not what everyone seems to be getting. --------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
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Ivan Tesla
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Posted - 2010.10.28 02:50:00 -
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Edited by: Ivan Tesla on 28/10/2010 02:52:33
Originally by: Ivan Tesla I still haven't received anything in the email, so I guess Lammergeier wasn't consider a correct submission...?.. I've asked before if my ship was submitted with something that would break the rules but have never gotten a negative. Maybe I don't get one because of complaining :) Well CCP & DA are run by people after all I guess, can't fault em for doing what they do. If you want something to be completely professionally run..well that would never happen anyway so quit dreaming 
CORRECTION: Looks like I got the 30-day CD key sent to my DA account in the notes section (not the email I listed in the account) 18 hours ago - so my BAD, my apologies to DA/CCP for saying otherwise. Ahh well I at least know it was accepted then :) yay thats something.
Still.. the ingame surprise was something I was looking forward to if my submission didn't do well (which it obviously didn't :)... nvm then. Hmm.. got to think of a good wallpaper that will instill the emotions about this contest, sounds pretty easy really. Though it will probably take me a long time to do :( --------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
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Ivan Tesla
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Posted - 2010.10.28 04:47:00 -
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Originally by: Burhtun I got a code even though my ship had renders for the various views. Don't know if that means renders didn't disqualify people, or if they just gave out codes to everyone who participated.
Linky your ship?
I think we can just agree on FUBAR at this stage.. wonder what CCP will say once they decide to come out and say something... hopefully that won't be FUBAR as well.  --------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
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Ivan Tesla
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Posted - 2010.10.28 14:52:00 -
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Edited by: Ivan Tesla on 28/10/2010 14:55:42 Edited by: Ivan Tesla on 28/10/2010 14:55:20
Originally by: Deliram
Originally by: Ivan Tesla CORRECTION: Looks like I got the 30-day CD key sent to my DA account in the notes section (not the email I listed in the account) 18 hours ago - so my BAD, my apologies to DA/CCP for saying otherwise. Ahh well I at least know it was accepted then :) yay thats something.
Still.. the ingame surprise was something I was looking forward to if my submission didn't do well (which it obviously didn't :)... nvm then. Hmm.. got to think of a good wallpaper that will instill the emotions about this contest, sounds pretty easy really. Though it will probably take me a long time to do :(
You know that was one of my favorite back in the starting of the contest(added it to my fav:P), great job ^_^ What programs did you used? How much time you where working on 3d?:D
I still hope too we will have a ingame prize... beside this 30 day to-give-to-a-friend-to-play i hope we will get something... that only us can have! Like a little mark for having done(or at least given a try) to add something to the game we all play and love.
Btw i don't think that the eve players who posted their work are so much outnumbered by non-players, actually i think it's the opposite or at least a 50%/50%.
Thanks for that :) I wish I spent more time on it though - I still had a few days till the deadline but I burned out hah. Only a quarter of the time was spent on the model (well most of it was working out SketchUp, which isn't too bad but I still don't know how to do somethings in it) and most of the time was using Photoshop Elements.. which isn't so bad, few things missing but its still do-able. The trouble part is starting the paint work over the plain rendered image - a blank canvas always sucks, takes time to know where your going with it. Should have done more on it definitely - needed waaaay more polish :(
Yeah an actual ingame prize would help soften the blow of this disaster - actually I said just give us a freebie bs/bc ship thats already in the game but I'd like something unique too (as you say :)
I would image quite a few EVE Online players would have entered this competition - and the true prize that every EVE player, I think, would be getting the ship in the game.. I think if I had a choice between the rest of the prizes and having the ship design ingame - I'd definitely pick in-game everytime! (and I'm pretty broke! heh). Should go without saying that all the DA (non EVE) people would only do it for the prizes. --------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
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Ivan Tesla
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Posted - 2010.10.28 22:59:00 -
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"...We understand that there is a huge outcry from the EVE community about the semi-finalist round suggestion, but dA ran a good contest. Ultimately they had to judge a subjective thing, art, which is never easy....." from CCP final official choice and statement.
Well what a load of *#&$in *#&$ - they know its complete FAIL but they're just finishing it up like this because it easier. Great... well I know what to expect from CCP from now on.  --------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
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Ivan Tesla
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Posted - 2010.10.29 02:56:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: Bomberlocks Thank you CCP for choosing the Tornado and making the best out of the very controversial semi-finalists round. Do you think you could take a look through the other entries and think about using some of them for your future additions to the game?
read the news, they will hold another contest where we get to vote on what our favorite ships are : )
Didn't see this before - YYYEEEESSSSSS!! My fury has abated completely seeing this news - says to me CCP knows it was FUBAR and is definitely doing the right thing now. Now I get to design a new ship! yeehaa!  --------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
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Ivan Tesla
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Posted - 2010.10.29 02:59:00 -
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Quote: The "EVE Online Design a Ship" contest has ended and winners have been chosen from thousands of entries. But it doesn't end there. The responses to the deviantART contest has been as inspiring as the designs have been creative, and we have listened closely to what you have said. In the near future, we will hold a new contest where players can vote on their favorite entries. Information regarding this new contest will be announced at a later time.
Ok so maybe its just voting on the ships current - a good turn none the less! 
--------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
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